Censorship… or Why I’ve Been Silent As Of Late

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. ~ Voltaire

Perhaps you may have noticed that after posting almost every day for about 2 months I suddenly dropped off for the last couple of weeks. Although whether you did or not is irrelevant to the primary subject of this post. I’ll get to why that was in a bit, but first… This post will hopefully simultaneously cover a few separate and distinct purposes:

To limit the press is to insult a nation; to prohibit reading of certain books is to declare the inhabitants to be either fools or slaves. ~ Claude-Adrien Helvétius

First is to touch on the idea of censorship, why it’s wrong in all but some very few limited situations.

The test of democracy is freedom of criticism. ~ David Ben-Gurion

The second is to “rant” a bit about an encounter we here at Thinking Critically had with censorship, in a place I would least have expected to encounter it.

We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values.  For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. ~ John F. Kennedy

Third, I’d like to explain why I have been negligent in blogging for the last two weeks.

Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too. ~ Voltaire

And the final purpose is to share a number of quotes I came across on the subject as the latest installment of my ongoing Quote Of The Moment segment.

We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavoring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. ~ John Stuart Mill

Censorship is the suppression of speech or other communication which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient to the general body of people as determined by a government, media outlet, or other controlling body. Essentially it is the control (or attempted control) of the information and ideas circulated within a society or community.

Obscenity is not a quality inherent in a book or picture, but is solely and exclusively a contribution of the reading mind, and hence cannot be defined in terms of the qualities of a book or picture. ~ Theodore Schroeder

There are many types of censorship, and clearly some are worse than others. If a government attempts to censor what it’s citizens can say that would probably be the most egregious version. For a government to attempt to tell people what they can and can not say violates what the purpose of a government should be (that purpose being protecting and serving it’s citizens). But not all censorship is quite so obvious or quite so universally condemned.

The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen. ~ Tommy Smothers

Other forms of unjustified censorship include schools (or school boards or teachers or PTAs) banning certain books from their library because of the content of those books; groups blocking content they feel is morally questionable from being publicly available; a news outlet not proving news about something that shows their parent company in a negative light or that goes against the general theme that that news outlet typically promotes; etc…

Censorship reflects society’s lack of confidence in itself.  It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. ~ Potter Stewart

And while there may be some legitimate forms of censorship (The military keeping some things secret in order to protect troops or citizens; child pornography being banned due to it having been shown to have a detrimental effect of those children involved; ; etc), it is of the utmost importance for society that those instances should be kept as narrow as possible to avoid infringing on the rights of people.

What progress we are making.  In the Middle Ages they would have burned me.  Now they are content with burning my books. ~ Sigmund Freud

And while in many situations people may have a legitimate right to censor other (the administrators of a private school; the owner of a business; the admin of an online blog or forum; etc) the question should not not “do they have the right”, but instead it should be “should they”. The general rule of thumb, at least in my opinion, is that there is rarely a valid reason to censor information beyond the minimal (and here I would stress minimal) instances where it is justifiably done by the government.

Take away the right to say “fuck” and you take away the right to say “fuck the government.” ~ Lenny Bruce

So what does any of this have to do with a blog about critical thinking? Well as it turns out there was an issue of censorship on Thinking Critically. And as it involved one of the bloggers here at Thinking Critically, it was taken very seriously. All of the people who blog here were chosen by and “approved” by the group, and by implication share some of the same core values (specifically about blogging). Comments were deleted were on a post that is being used as the basis for an upcoming discussion group. The author felt that these comments added nothing to the discussion that would be going on, and since some of them were combative the author seemingly believed that they might be a distraction.

If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all. ~ Noam Chomsky

I contributed my opinion to the author, and this caused a bit (ok perhaps more than a bit) of a kerfuffle (I don’t think I’ve ever actually used that word before, hmm) among a number of the authors of the blog. And while it’s been dealt with now (including those deleted comments being restored), while it remained up in the air I felt that I could not in good conscience contribute to any forum (or more accurately, blog) that would condone the censorship of ideas.

The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it.  If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth:  if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error. ~ John Stuart Mill

And to end with the lighter side of censorship, Jimmy Kimmel’s Unnecessary Censorship:
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The populist authoritarianism that is the downside of political correctness means that anyone, sometimes it seems like everyone, can proclaim their grief and have it acknowledged.  The victim culture, every sufferer grasping for their own Holocaust, ensures that anyone who feels offended can call for moderation, for dilution, and in the end, as is all too often the case, for censorship.  And censorship, that by-product of fear – stemming as it does not from some positive agenda, but from the desire to escape our own terrors and superstitions by imposing them on others – must surely be resisted. ~ Jonathon Green

About Rodibidably

Jeff Randall is a frequent volunteer for free-thought organizations, including the Center For Inquiry – DC. Having been blogging since January 2008, he decided that a community of bloggers would be an interesting new experience (or at the very least a fun way to annoy his friends into reading his posts more frequently). Since finding out about about the existence of, and then joining, the atheist/skeptic community in 2007 he has been committed to community activism, critical thinking in all aspects of life, science, reason, and a fostering a secular society.
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8 Responses to Censorship… or Why I’ve Been Silent As Of Late

  1. Rock says:

    OK. You called this a blog. If it’s a blog then by definition you’re a bunch of folks writing individual posts that people respond to. Every person’s list of posts are their own microcosm which other posters, both authors of the site and guests step into. OK, fine.

    But you also have the choice to be a community. And if you want to be a community, a community has rules.

    The rules (in this case) are usually meant to encourage participation and are sometimes meant to enforce ideas that the owners like. There’s a fine line, yes, but let’s stick to the goal of participation for now. If you’ve decided within your community that you preserve someone’s right to say something, that’s fine, but it’s also OK to have rules of how they can say it. You have the choice to read a post and say:

    “Look, you made some good points here, but how you said it does not meet our rules of light versus heat, and we want everyone to feel happy and comfortable discussing things here on the merits of their points. That means no personal attacks and very little beyond some funny stuff that we call snarkiness. If you want to make your argument, fine, just be nice. If you can’t that’s fine, but you don’t get to say it here. So please rewrite anything you wouldn’t say to X fictional person you want to make a good impression on and send it back when you have a moment. We will wait. Well, sort of.”

    Larger communities tend to censor and even block in the interest of time, but that’s your choice within your group. There’s a guy who writes quite a lot of this subject called Derek Powazek. He has a book called Design for Community if it interests you.

    To reiterate, the question is what are you, the larger you, here? What are your goals?

    • Jeff Randall says:

      Rock,
      This is a blog by definition since we use blogging software and write articles which others may comment on.
      But I also tend to see us as a community (or at least one outpost of a larger community).

      And I do agree that many blogs and many communities have rules about what people can and can not say, and how they can and can not say it.
      However as a blog or community that promotes critical thinking and freedom of inquiry, I tend to believe we should live up to those ideals we promote. Part of the idea behind freedom of inquiry is the ability to question or make comments that people might find “difficult” or “offensive”. If I write a post that says I believe guns should be limited or that opposing the “ground zero” “mosque” is a distractions from issues of actual importance and somebody replies calling me names and saying all the reasons they believe I am wrong, they have that right. I can choose whether or not to respond to them, but as long as their comments are at least somewhat on topic (i.e. not spam) and legal (i.e. they should not be removed for reasons related to law enforcement) I see no valid reason to delete those comments. I can agree or disagree with their comments or their tone, but regardless of my feelings, I believe they have the right to speak their mind.

      I tend to view deleting comments as a form of censorship. And I firmly believe that censorship is the antithesis of many of the ideals which I believe in. I have complained in the past when my posts (or posts by others) have been censored on other forums, and I can not imagine a situation where I would find censorship of ideas to be the best choice.

      I have written before on why I support the free speech of even people at vile as Fred Phelps, so my ideas of on the evils of censorship are nothing new. It’s just this is yet on more take on a subject I’ve felt very strongly about for a long time.

      To reiterate, the question is what are you, the larger you, here? What are your goals?

      What am I?
      I am an opinionated free-thinker who believes that blogging has been a good way to enable me to share and refine my views on many subjects.

      What are “we” (as all of the bloggers here), would be a much tougher question.
      I know all of the bloggers here personally, and while we share many ideals I really prefer not to speak for others. I can say we are all atheists/skeptics/free-thinkers. But beyond that it’s up to each individual to explain themselves.

      What are my goals?
      Well as far as blogging, it’s something I’ve thought about actually, and I have a post I’ll be finishing up in the next few days that goes in to that in detail…

  2. Other Rock says:

    I didn’t see what the fuss was about, so I can’t comment, except for the fact that when someone’s free inquiry goes beyond the scope of the argument, “freedom” is really messing with other people’s freedom to discuss the original subject.
    At that point you’ve given someone the freedom to disrupt your discourse.
    Once it hits that point, it’s your logic I question.

    • Jeff Randall says:

      I agree that not all comments add to the conversation or discussion on a topic. And I suppose it’s possible that one person could derail a conversation to the point you describe. However I would argue that it’s better to simply ignore comments from somebody like that, rather than to censor them. Even the most strident troll will go away if you don’t feed their ego by responding…

  3. Other Rock says:

    That sounds like a good answer then.

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